The aforementioned infiltrators are fully embedded within online sites, and can also be found hidden inside mainstream print publications. Their thrust has been recapped through numerous commentaries, as well as within a featured interview.
Most recently, the following was highlighted: UPDATE: Turkish Islamist (anti-semite) ADNAN OKTAR warns those who refuse to submit to the “mahdi”. His claim to the mantle “prophesied” via the Jewish Torah! How much clearer can the danger be, yet, as indicated within the above link(s), too many “pro-Israel” forums print his vile writings, albeit via his surrogates.
So aside from Islamic penetration, a similar danger exists from Christian missionaries. At certain times they operate as “tag teams”, but oftentimes as solo actors. It just depends. But to what end do they coalesce? Well, their main objective is to “uproot” Judaism out of Israel, the eternal Jewish homeland. And it is due to this point of agreement and convergence that said main players – from both sides – are “cooperating” within Jewish social media sites and beyond. The main questions before us are: how do they operate? who is giving them despicable cover?
Exhibit One: detailed below are FB exchanges within one of the largest “pro-Israel” group pages. While others are similarly infected and indicted, ISRAELI FRONTLINE bears special scrutiny (opprobrium) due to its online prominence. Its companion page is also a non-profit – ISRAELI FRONTLINE is non-profit. This weblog is rewarded for each click, so please visit our advertisers to see what they are offering. Interesting.
Exhibit Two: the referenced exchanges were accumulated AFTER 4 ! attempts to keep a particular article housed within their forum, a site which posts 24/7 in varying timelines all over the world. And It was NEVER an issue of tech/computer-related glitches. Not at all. Each time it was posted – and this and that feedback ensued – the article, and its exchanges, was purposely deleted from the site. Mind you, a cadre of dedicated Zionists – attempting to highlight matters of grave concern to the Jewish nation – have become the enemy, for daring to protect the Jewish homeland. DON’T forget this aspect. It is key.
In other words, she has no qualms about publicizing a site – which many thousands of its well intentioned members truly believe is pro-Israel – and stacking it with other members AND administrators who are OPENLY missionaries, some of whom are also “admirers/supporters” of Adnan Oktar’s cult members. On the other hand, authentic Zionists are being silenced when “no-no’s” are brought to the fore.
In plain English, not the bastardized kind: a hoax is being perpetrated upon the pro-Israel community. This deception is also compromising well meaning Christians; friends who truly support Israel as a Jewish State without “pre-conditions”. Again, ISRAELI FRONTLINE is hardly the only misleading forum, despite the many important news stories posted therein.
Sach ha’kol, at the end of it all, a continual check-back at ISRAELI FRONTLINE becomes mandatory, for we understand with whom we are dealing. What a waste of time, but none of this will slow us down. Yet the “now you see it, now you don’t” poof-like game is an integral part of their strategy, and this is definitively determined from seasoned investigators.
But still, how many times do the “powers that be”, at ISRAELI FRONTLINE and other sites, believe we are going to continue to conduct this up and down chase? At the same time, other articles do not just “magically disappear” – unlike those of concern herein – DESPITE repeated promises to some well known Israeli Zionist activists to keep them at the forum. Indeed these “movers and shakers”, members in good standing at the stated group pages, are ignored with impunity. Therefore, the question becomes: who are these page owners really beholden to? What the hell is going on? Continue reading.
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יעקב בנימין הכהן בן-אריה Think 11th commandment = fools never die, they just change places & humanity is littered with them
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Meir Weinstein The publication is a missionary publication. What do you expect them to write.
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Yes, Meir, but I am posting this as a warning to others. The missionaries are spending a fortune to spread Christianity in Israel, which I consider as an effort to kill us spiritually, almost as much as the Arabs are spending on murdering us physically!We need to warn our fellow Jews against their efforts and their devious antics to steal our souls! I will fight their efforts to the bitter end! If they want to support Israel as a Jewish state, I will bless them. If they do it with the goal of converting us, they will have to face many Jews like myself! No threats, in case someone interprets it in such a way (and I know there are some:-)3 hours ago · 5
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Avraham Goodman Missionaries are our enemy, they want to steal our souls & rob us of our heritage.3 hours ago · 4
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And we will fight them Avraham. Can you please post here the name of the lady you mentioned to me earlier, one who goes around lecturing against them?
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Simone Trachtenberg I know a few of them myself. I try to stay away from them.3 hours ago · 3
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Avraham Goodman Read her page & learn.
http://www.peninataylor.com/This is the story of Penina Taylor’s spiritual journey from Secular Judaism, through Christianity and Messianic Judaism to Orthodox Judaism.�3 hours ago · 1 -
Staying away is not enough I am afraid, Simone. They are everywhere. I was approached a few years ago by an Israeli who works with them and he offered me to set up a Christian party (I would be 2nd on the list.Then it dawned on me that if this party grows in numbers they can vote to turn Israel into a Christian state. OVER MY DEAD BODY!
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Simone Trachtenberg Very Interesting link Avraham thanks for sharing .3 hours ago · 1
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Avraham Goodman The best defense is a good Jewish education for you & your children.
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יעקב בנימין הכהן בן-אריה I hate that my 2 small children are growing up in London3 hours ago via mobile
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Meir Weinstein And where are the rabbis.3 hours ago via mobile
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Meir Weinstein I agree3 hours ago via mobile
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Simone Trachtenberg I totally Agree Avrahham if you have good jewish education you have nothing to fear from them and your are stronger because of that education . At least that’s how i feel.3 hours ago · 2
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Phillip Pasmanick But, it’s not our way to proselytize.3 hours ago · 1
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Frankly, Meir, I am not interested in reeducating them. If they choose to believe in Yeshua or jesus, it is fine with me. All I want is for them to stay away from converting the gullible and fragile souls in Israel and the Jewish world. Am I asking too much?
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Meir Weinstein When one thinks about all the rabbis and yeshivas it makes no sense that this can go on.
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Phillip Pasmanick by saying my name THREE times, it sounds like a condescending lecture….is it?
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Meir Weinstein I do remember the attempt to form a political party.
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Phillip Pasmanick ” All I want is for them to stay away from converting the gullible and fragile souls in Israel and the Jewish world. Am I asking too much?” you are asking a dog not to bark….is that asking too much?MINE
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I am sorry, just saw it, PhillipI apologize. it was not my intention.
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No, I am asking them to stay away from MY people, Phillip .They want to proselytize let them do it with other groups. I can ONLY worry about the future of people and MY home:-) If a dog loves you, it will NOT bark at you! These people claim they love me. Oh really?
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Avraham Goodman Be informed!3 hours ago · 1
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Meir Weinstein We have Jews against Israel and rabbis against the IDF and Jews for changing the status at the kotel and Jews for Jesus. Can we ever get united.
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Avraham Goodman When Moshiach comes!3 hours ago · 1
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Meir Weinstein Sounds about right
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Usman Ali Interesting case, but if that was happening as daily based propaganda..Well a #Jew know how to consider the facts..Let we leave on him/her that what they want to choose (Secular based opinion).. But according to religious point of views they should be well aware from religious and non-religious facts to protect their’s beliefs from opposite religious mindsets but in a gentleman way ..
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Louis Joffe I am sorry but i will never accept this Messianic or Jews for Jesus. I too do not have anything against these people who believe in this but please DON’T try to get me involved.
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Usman Ali I just remember a strong sentence of an politician that “Never touch other sect/religion and don’t leave your religion/sect” #SheikhRasheedAhmad2 hours ago via mobile
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Josh Yazel Christians are to spread the Gospel and that is what they are doing. Jews for Jesus are Christian, correct?
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Usman Ali hmm
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Jamie Nachinson so not josh
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Larry Moskowitz Comments are now closed on this thread. Thank you all for your cooperation.
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Jonathan Engel audit trail ?3 hours ago · 1
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Someone does not like it, Jonathan Engel. Now I have sent this link to some friends. Hopefully it will still be here when they get back. if it is not, we will know that someone is personally offended by it.
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Tamar Cummings, you are one who sent me a message asking me if I had removed it. Here it is. let us hope it is here to stay:-)
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Tamar Cummings Reading the entire article helps, it would be easy to just read the headline/intro and miss the conclusion that nothing is what it appears to be and maybe especially so in Israel?
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Tamar Cummings There are a number of different threads woven into this report, it may be an inkblot test to see which thread captures the reader’s focus.
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Ray Levesque if you have a beef with the moderators, talk to us directly. The moderators are not on trial here. You should consider that it is better to trust our judgment than to question it. We do a LOT behind their scenes to keep this group on course. As for the article, it seems fine but often the discussions get WAY out of line and it is best to delete the whole thing, which may have happened. And there is no audit trail… This is just a Facebook group eh.
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Tamar Cummings Ray, I appreciate you keeping the site in order and understand it was not the article itself but the potential discussion that could ensue that was of concern.
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Denise Salamone Just for the record I fight against missionaries and it is a major issue for Jews. What responses would be necessary to remove the post …… those for it or those against it. Not understanding completely. ty
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I did Ray. I talked to the Chief to Michelle Cohen. Could I do better than this? I have had dealings with you in the past, Ray Levesque and did not get too far becuase you simply decided to delete my comment. Let me see, oh yes, it was about Obama.He m…See More
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Ray Levesque Tamar thank you. I have no clue why it was deleted, and that doesn’t bother me because I have leaned to trust the other moderators in the group. There must have been a good reason. Some members think that Israeli Frontline is their own soapbox and get …See More
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Your guidelines say that this is a Pro Israel site, Ray. Anyone who wishes to convert jews in israel is NOT pro Israeli! Ask me, I am Israeli. Ask Michelle Cohen,she is Israeli. She agreed with me!
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Ray Levesque Hiya . Please continue to work with Michelle with your list of grievances. My answers are obviously insufficient.
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Denise Salamone I agree with you , it is important that members understand why this was removed. This is a huge issue in supporting Israel.
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Thank you, Denise
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Ray Levesque Sorry Denise, but I will not participate. I give way too many hours to this hasbara effort to then be analyzed and scrutinized by over 12,000 members. As moderators we already know what the huge issues are. But more importantly we know how to follow the IF guidelines.
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Denise Salamone You don’t have to thank me -in fact thank you for bringing this to my attention. If there is one thing I cannot stand are messy antics.
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Denise Salamone Ray Levesque, thanks for the response, in light of your comment you would think you would want to know why then this was removed. I am not understanding, as you know the threat they cause.
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Denise Salamone this is not an attack – just so you know.
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Ray Levesque Please note that there has been zero discussion about this article. If this issue is so important, why isn’t anyone discussing it? Because we are WAY off topic.
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Ray, as one who had attended several higher educations institutions and lived in several countries I have had to follow many guidelines in my life. So trust me, IF simple basic guidelines are no challenges whatsoever. Now that we have cleared that out of the way, can we get an answer why the article has been removed. Surely someone, one of your very competent admins/moderators (and I mean it seriously as I have the highest respect to people like Michelle Cohen, May Lim and Larry Moskowitz could surely provide us with an answer>
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Tamar Cummings Jump to the conclusion of the article: “this young man joined the growing numbers of hundreds of openly Messianic Jewish soldiers proudly serving in the IDF.So why is the Ministry of Defense now publicly opposing Messianic activity in Jerusalem? According to one combat soldier, who is not Messianic, it all has to do with politics. “The government passed a law recently to recruit religious (ultra-Orthodox) Jews, but most refuse to serve,” he explained. “The army is trying to appease the Orthodox community in Jerusalem by making this absurd announcement against Messianic faith. We are all here to serve our country and the army should not be involved in telling people which path of faith to follow.””
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Ray Levesque please let take it up with a Moderator for whom you have some respect. I would not deign to impose my frail explanations upon you.
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Tamar, I agree with you. If someone chooses out of their own accord to join Messianic Judaism, no one can condemn them. They are still Jewish and should serve the army. My issue is NOT with the Christians or any non Jews, my issues are with those Christians who believe that because they come and help Israel, they are given the right to use devious methods to steal Jewish souls.
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Thank you, Ray, no need for you to waste your time on me. After all, it was NOT you who removed it. So let us wait for the one that has removed it to tell us why? Shall we?
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Ray Levesque Thank Tamar for posting something about the article in the comment section. THAT is the purpose of Israeli Frontline, to foster relevant, civil dialog.53 minutes ago via mobile
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Tamar Cummings Fascinating article! The irony of the Jewish state in the middle east being the most inclusive state around!
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Denise Salamone And this the crux of the article -that they did go in search of messys – messy’s came to them to recruit them on the Sabbath.
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Denise Salamone they did ^not^
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Denise Salamone Do you support the Messianic movement Tamar Cummings?
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Tamar Cummings The messianics are a part of the IDF, protecting all who live in Israel.
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Denise Salamone Let me clarify do you believe in their quest to convert Jews?
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Ray Levesque Denise, please don’t make this personal. We are not going to allow religious arguments here. Please review the guidelines.43 minutes ago via mobile
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Denise Salamone Ray, now I am thoroughly confused completely. I am not trying to attempt to have a religious conversation anyway. I am concerned that now it is off limits to discuss a very major threat against Jewish souls that are off limits, which is vital to the State of Israel.
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Ray Levesque Denise, you are confronting another member about their personal beliefs. It is better to discuss the points of the article, which is NOT about Tamar Cummings. Thank you for understanding. Moderator.35 minutes ago via mobile
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Denise, it is irrelevant whether Tamar is messianic or not. You can ask her that in a P.N. But what is of greater concern is that Ray Levesque, a moderator in a page that declares itself as Pro Israel does not see that as a serious issue that threatens the essence of the Jewish state, the ONLY Jewish state. makes me wonder what Ray is. But I will not ask him as it is against the group guidelines
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Ray Levesque if you have a personal issue with me, it does not belong in the comments section. Please share your grievances with Michelle and leave the comments for actual discussion.28 minutes ago via mobile
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Albert Vitela This is a horrible irrelevant article on division between Zionist28 minutes ago via mobile
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Oh I have already Ray. In the past, remember? I turned to Michelle Cohen. The wisest thing I could have done. Need I say more?
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Ray Levesque No , you need say nothing more.
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Denise Salamone What is horrible is the messianic movement preying on Jews who are alone in this article.
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Wiki Leek As Messianics be defined by the law of Israel and the Supreme Court of Israel as Christians they act like Fake-Jews and give the world a fraud picture of Judaism and Israel to the world which do harm to Israel. This have nothing to do with religious be…See More
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Denise Salamone Our History has shown quite clearly the implications fallen upon Jews from Christian Missionaries. A lesson we have learned well.
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Ray Levesque Wiki Leek, this group reports and discusses Israeli security issues. This group does not allow proselytizing by any groups towards any others. It also is not the place to attack proselytizers. We simply don’t go there. I have banned an Orthodox Jew for…See More
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Tamar Cummings “Messianics are highly regarded by military authorities, and are even sought out to serve as commanders and officers in every branch of the Israeli military, including Military Intelligence, which requires the highest security clearance.” This article has many “threads” of thought…
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But Oren actually said, “The Christian churches that are active and there are a great number of them — have an agreement with the Israeli government that they can enjoy complete religious freedom, but that they should refrain from proselytizing.”