THE DemonRats a/k/a the Deep State Mafia wouldn’t know the truth if it smacked them upside the head and rendered them unconscious. No exaggeration.
AS such, no matter how voluminous the avalanche of evidence continuously piles up, rest assured, their fall-back is always the same: The fabrication of indictment upon indictment upon their nemesis, President Trump, to deflect from their massive crimes of treason! Evil upon its face.
TO wit, the following testimonial recap from Devon Archer puts the nail in Biden’s coffin — never mind all the tall tales, bobbing, weaving, dodging and spinning!
House Oversight Chairman James Comer joined Greg Kelly on Monday night following the testimony earlier today by Hunter Biden associate Devon Archer in testimony before the committee.
And, Devon Archer sang like a bird. As The Gateway Pundit reported earlier today, Devon Archer was understandably upset when Joe Biden’s Department of Justice arrested him and sentenced him to over a year in prison earlier this year.
On Monday Devon Archer told House investigators that Joe Biden met with Hunter Biden’s clients numerous times, joined into meetings over the phone, and the family was rewarded with tens of millions of dollars for influence peddling and bribery schemes.
On Monday night Chairman Comer told Greg Kelly that Speaker McCarthy called and they discussed steps in impeachment following today’s explosive hearing.
Greg Kelly: How can a guy like this stay in office? You heard Speaker McCarthy. He’s talking about impeachment… If this is bribery, that’s in the Constitution. I mean, do you think he’s going to get impeached? Should he be impeached?
Chairman James Comer: Well, I know how I would vote, but again, that’s a decision for Speaker McCarthy. But I’ll tell you this. Right before I came on the show, speaker McCarthy called me and I gave him a rundown of what was said today. And we talked about steps moving forward. So stay tuned.
Comer added, “It’s like a snowball rolling down hill.”
Boom! It’s happening. Via Greg Kelly on Newsmax. Click here for video evidence…(POSTSCRIPT: It is more likely than not (indeed, the Law of Probability
should calculate the odds) that Archer and his family will have to live in hiding for the rest of their lives. To believe that the BIGGEST bull’s eye is not on their backs, well, one might as well believe in the tooth fairy!)
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WHEN it comes to matters of grave national import (security, first and foremost), it should be a given that leaders of high moral character and outstanding patriotic ethos must stand at the helm. This should be a non-negotiable criteria.
HOWEVER, much to America’s and Israel’s national shame, this is currently not the case. And if anyone believes that the following indictment is mostly reserved for the Islamist-in-Chief, think again.
ABSOLUTELY, Israel’s top leadership is gravely lacking in national responsibility. They will (eventually) be held culpable for major malfeasance against the majority Zionist public, especially due to their “negotiating” illegal “cease-fires” with a designated terror group, Hamas.Indeed, this deleterious, craven outgrowth is a direct result of serving “foreign masters” (especially Obama, Egypt’s El Sisi & a PA/Hamas terror tag-team), to the detriment of the majority of citizens who ushered them into power. Unconscionable. Unforgivable. As an American-Israeli, well, let’s just say that this is a sad nadir within both nation’s histories. A crying shame and stain. An actual blight.
THAT being out in the open, one recognizes that America’s leaders have gone over to the dark side, championing evil, even when not readily apparent. One just has to juxtapose their “order of priorities” in least expected arenas – to honor the dead, or not.
BUT why the fuss? Well, again, it attests to the character, or the lack thereof, of the Commander-in-Chief and whether or not he is capable of having America’s back. And, if so, why aren’t the following national warnings in place?
OMINOUSLY, a major outgrowth to Obama’s illegal war in Libya (the main goal of the weapons running was to destabilize Syria for the benefit of Syria’s Brotherhood Mafia) allowed countless man-pads to awash Syria and beyond. In this regard, isn’t it likely that this is how ISIS got their hands on said weapons and then some?
Agreed, having Joe-foot-in-the-mouth-Biden as his stand-in hardly sounds appealing. But one has to look beyond the obvious.
TO wit, at the very least, the shock of his impeachment (or charge of treason) would have a rippling and cascading effect. So much so that Biden – or any other miscreant from Obama Inc’s malignant crew – would be deeply traumatized, basically halting their behind-the-scenes machinations. Don’t underestimate the self preservation factor. It has a way of kicking in, when unexpected.
NOT only that, but certain crimes committed under his anti-American leadership would be up for reversal, through whichever mechanism is provided for under the Constitution. Let’s leave that to the experts. Isn’t the above enough reason to push for impeachment, a trial for treason, among countless other factors?
FROM the get go, it is imperative to understand that the current disintegration of Iraq -even as this is being written – into the hands of Al Qaeda should have been a jihadi no-brainer. And don’t bother scratching your head, pondering: how did this happen? In fact, had this not come to pass, well, that would have been a head scratcher!
Mind you, while some Americans (other westerners too) understand the geo-political gravity of the situation, the fact of the matter is that this American-Israeli understands what is taking place, not just from an overall geo-political perspective, but from one whose own borders are, to a maximum degree, threatened. And so much more.
To wit, the following is not an exercise in theoretical posturing. Indeed, its knock-on effects are cataclysmic, especially when catapulted onto Iran’s nuclear menace and Syria’s dissolution. So between Iran, via its proxy arm Hezbollah, using Syria as a staging ground, and Al Qaeda jihadists gaining another foothold, the region has never, ever been more menacing. Besides, for the time being, you can put aside the endless warring between Sunni and Shia, a centuries old conflict with no end in sight. If only said inter-tribal warfare were the major issue, what a relief that would be. After all, let them just kill each other and the west will be that much safer. However, this is only a pipe dream.
As a matter of record, within both Islamic streams, splintered groups are jockeying for power to create the first Islamic (Caliphate) arc in modern history, and with a terror entity as its hegemonic power! OMG!! But for westerners, and in the most simplistic of terms, think of the above in relation to the largest criminal organizations bar none, perhaps using the Mafia as a template. Raising the stakes even further, thus postulate Islamic outcomes via mega steroids, as they fight major turf battles, ultimately seeking to extend their authority over everything in their wake. However, not just to those who owe them this or that debt, if you dare imagine.
As indicated on numerous occasions, starting back in Dec. 2012 – many moons ago, at least in the realm of the average westerner’s ADD-afflicted thinking – the Islamist-in-Chief’s illegal war in Libya gave Al Qaedaa renewed tailwind! How magnanimous. But there’s more.
Still and all, no rational observer, let alone national leadership, wouldn’t expect the very same Al Qaeda terror organization to stay clear of Israel’s borders. So isn’t the tailwind given by Barack HUSSEIN Obama to Al Qaeda another one of his weapons used against Israel, a nation he rabidly detests, all the more a grave geo-political disaster, being that Israel is the ONLY western “outpost” in the entire Islamic-riven jihadi region? Of course.
WASHINGTON — As the threat from Sunni militants in western Iraq escalated last month, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki secretly asked the Obama administration to consider carrying out airstrikes against extremist staging areas, according to Iraqi and American officials.
But Iraq’s appeals for a military response have so far been rebuffed by the White House, which has been reluctant to open a new chapter in a conflict that President Obama has insisted was over when the United States withdrew the last of its forces from Iraq in 2011.
The swift capture of Mosul by militants aligned with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria has underscored how the conflicts in Syria and Iraq have converged into one widening regional insurgency with fighters coursing back and forth through the porous border between the two countries. But it has also called attention to the limits the White House has imposed on the use of American power in an increasingly violent and volatile region.
A spokeswoman for the National Security Council, Bernadette Meehan, declined to comment on Mr. Maliki’s requests. “We are not going to get into details of our diplomatic discussions,” she said in a statement. “The current focus of our discussions with the government of Iraq and our policy considerations is to build the capacity of the Iraqis to successfully confront” the Islamic extremists.
The Obama administration has carried out drone strikes against militants in Yemen and Pakistan, where it fears terrorists have been hatching plans to attack the United States. But despite the fact that Sunni militants have been making steady advances and may be carving out new havens from which they could carry out attacks against the West, administration spokesmen have insisted that the United States is not actively considering using warplanes or armed drones to strike them.
Hoshyar Zebari, Iraq’s foreign minister, last year floated the idea that armed American-operated Predator or Reaper drones might be used to respond to the expanding militant network in Iraq. American officialsdismissed that suggestion at the time, saying that the request had not come from Mr. Maliki.
By March, however, American experts who visited Baghdad were being told that Iraq’s top leaders were hoping that American air power could be used to strike the militants’ staging and training areas inside Iraq, and help Iraq’s beleaguered forces stop them from crossing into Iraq from Syria.
“Iraqi officials at the highest level said they had requested manned and unmanned U.S. airstrikes this year against ISIS camps in the Jazira desert,” said Kenneth M. Pollack, a former C.I.A. analyst and National Security Council official, who is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institutionand who visited Baghdad in early March. ISIS is the acronym for the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, as the militant group is known.
As the Sunni insurgents have grown in strength those requests have persisted. In a May 11 meeting with American diplomats and Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, the head of the Central Command, which oversees American military operations in the Middle East, Mr. Maliki said he would like the United States to provide Iraq with the ability to operate drones. But if the United States was not willing to do that, Mr. Maliki indicated he was prepared to allow the United States to carry out strikes using warplanes or drones.
In a May 16 phone call with Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., Mr. Maliki again suggested that the United States consider using American air power. A written request repeating that point was submitted soon afterward, officials said.
Some experts say that such American military action could be helpful but only if Mr. Maliki takes steps to make his government more inclusive.
“U.S. military support for Iraq could have a positive effect but only if it is conditioned on Maliki changing his behavior within Iraq’s political system,” Mr. Pollack said. “He has to bring the Sunni community back in, agree to limits on his executive authority and agree to reform Iraqi security forces to make them more professional and competent.”
But so far, the administration has signaled that it is not interested in such a direct American military role.
“Ultimately, this is for the Iraqi security forces, and the Iraqi government to deal with,” Rear Adm. John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, said Tuesday.
A vehicle belonging to the Iraqi security forces was abandoned in Mosul.CreditReuters
The deteriorating situation in Iraq is not what the Obama administration expected when it withdrew the last American troops from there in 2011. In a March 2012 speech, Antony J. Blinken, who is Mr. Obama’s deputy national security adviser, asserted that “Iraq today is less violent” than “at any time in recent history.”
From the start, experts have stressed that the conflict in Iraq is as much political as military. Mr. Maliki’s failure to include leading Sunnis in his government has heightened the sectarian divisions in Iraq.
But American officials also say that militants from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria represent a formidable military threat, one that Iraq’s security forces, which lack an effective air force, have been hard pressed to handle on their own.
Adding to that challenge is the fact that the group controls territory on both sides of the Iraqi-Syrian border, and the Iraq and Syria conflicts have been feeding each other.
Said Lakhdar Brahimi, the former United Nations envoy to the collapsed Syria peace talks: “The region is in trouble, starting with Iraq. When I went to Baghdad in December, I was told that for every 100 operations ISIS did in Syria, it did 1,000 in Iraq.”
Critics say the latest developments show the weakness in an administration strategy designed to shore up Iraqi forces and to combat a growing Islamic militancy in Syria that officials say poses an increasing counterterrorism threat to the United States.
In a speech on Wednesday, Susan E. Rice, Mr. Obama’s national security adviser, said that the American effort to buttress Iraq’s forces had been effective. “The United States has been fast to provide necessary support for the people and government of Iraq,” she said in remarks at the Center for New American Security in Washington.
The United States has provided a $14 billion foreign military aid package to Iraq that includes F-16 fighter jets, Apache attack helicopters and M-16 rifles. It has rushed hundreds of Hellfire missiles as well as ScanEagle reconnaissance drones.
A second round of counterterrorism training between American Special Operations commandos and Iraqi troops started in Jordan this week. At least two F-16s are set to arrive in Iraq by September, and six Apaches will be leased for training later this year, Iraqi and Pentagon officials said.
But some former generals who served in Iraq said a greater effort was needed.
James M. Dubik, a retired Army lieutenant general who oversaw the training of the Iraqi army during the surge, summed it up this way: “We should fly some of our manned and unmanned aircraft and put advisers into Iraq that can help the Iraqi Army plan and execute a proper defense, then help them transition to a counter offensive.”
Israeli war planners are, as always, watching the encirclement of the nation’s borders, and not just from Iran’s (usual) proxies. And no one should be oh so shocked when Israeli forces take matters into their own hands, knowing full well that Barack HUSSEIN Obama has no interest in tamping down the flames, even though it will appear as if U.S. cooperation is in the background. Nonsense.
More specifically, and even more incendiary, what kind of a (im)moral cretin, a pygmy, leaves Americans to fend for themselves under jihadi fire:
Right off the bat, it is intrinsic to note:though possessing a grounded education in political science – specifically, international relations/security studies, in tandem with criminal law/forensics – there is no claim to being a legal expert. In this regard, this site possesses more than its share of HIGHLY qualified legal eagles to call upon, if necessary. “It be” necessary.
A depiction of the 1868 impeachment proceedings against President Andrew Johnson. The Senate’s vote on the 11th Article of Impeachment fell one vote short of the two thirds majority needed to impeach Johnson. Two other articles were later defeated.
As to McCarthy, a no-nonsense prosecutor with a stellar track record, he is most well-known for a related terror investigation, one which, incidentally, this American-Israeli expounded upon via an op-ed at Israel National News.
Not only that, upon (required) consultation with this site’s own legal resources, they too cited “high crimes and misdemeanors” as legally viable redress for the nation, atop all his other crimes against the citizens, several which also rise to the level of impeachment. They duly explained, as did McCarthy (in the article below), that said “political wrong” endangered soldiers on the battlefield, as well as U.S. citizens at large. And so much more….
Even so, though not one to beat a dead horse (but others may debate this claim), this blogger has repeatedly cited the lawlessness of Obama Inc. So as the Executive Branch repeatedly vitiates its own laws (hence, charged as “legal outlaws”), plus violates the Constitution through bypassing Congress altogether – be it in relation to waging illegal wars (Libya), or enacting fiat after fiat without consulting Congress – Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s release of Taliban/Al-Qaeda terrorists raises their “legal outlaw” status exponentially. Moreover, the Executive Branch violated their own enacted law, enjoining that 30 days’ notice must be given to Congress, in order to release any Guantanamo prisoners! Obama Inc. operates as a real junta. Simple as that.
As to the citations for impeachment, well, where to begin? Here and there.
However, Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s bloody footprints, leading to the slaughter of Americans in Libya, involved much more than appeared to the general public. His fires in the entire mid eastwere becoming increasingly obvious, especially to those who “take an interest” in said domains. Further rumblings were heard….
Here and There Three:
And even though a disconcerting proportion of the (blissfully ignorant) citizenry appears unaware of said national meltdown – in addition to those who actually desire said outcome – well, an increased rallying cry for impeachment is becoming resonant, considering all the scandals bubbling to the fore!
Here and There Four:
Thus, as one always willing to settle a patriotic score (even though an expat), this site offers up a 36 page compendium to hurry up the process, whether as a “stand alone” charge or added onto an “overarching indictment” as an appendage. Six of one…half a dozen of another.
According to multiple experts, the Obama administration’s actions in facilitating the release of American prisoner of war Bowe Bergdahl was an obvious violation of law and could ultimately result in his impeachment proceedings. Former Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew McCarthy has a new book in which he details the case of Obama’s impeachment. The recent deal with the Taliban to release five terrorist subjects for Bergdahl’s return, he explains, is yet another route that could lead to charges.
Republican leaders explain Obama himself signed a law last year requiring him to give Congress 30 days’ notice prior to releasing any Guantanamo Bay prisoner.
Aside from the fact that Bergdahl has since been accused of being an Army deserter who expressed his shame about being a soldier and an American, the administration’s handling of his return has become a controversy in itself. In a recent statement, Rep. Buck McKeon and Sen. Jim Inhofe – both ranking members of their respective armed services committees – explained that Obama not only violated the 30-day notice law but also failed “to explain how the threat posed by such terrorists has been substantially mitigated.” The Daily Mail cites a White House insider who was stunned by the public backlash against the move, noting administration officials expected “a January 1981 moment” of celebration, as with the release of 52 Americans being held hostage in Iran. White House sources contended that fears for Bergdahl’s health made his release a priority; however, Press Secretary Jay Carney would not confirm that assertion in a recent press conference. McCarthy is far more concerned about the release of five dangerous terrorist suspects than in the administration’s failure to give adequate notice to Congress. He said that “because high crimes and misdemeanors are not statutory offenses but political wrongs that endanger the United States, the return of senior terrorists to the Taliban while we still have soldiers in harm’s way is, in my view, a ‘high crime and misdemeanor.’” The latest scandal is just one more piece in a puzzle that adds up to a president deserving of impeachment, he explained. “If it was a stand alone, I would never impeach based solely on it,” he said; “but I would add it to a larger indictment.”
Now, considering that the Traitor-in-Chief’s act of treason is leading some military law experts to posit a possible firing squad for the released AWOL Bergdahl, well, hope springs eternal…a woman can dream…possibly attaching said punishment to his savior – Barack HUSSEIN Obama! Fair is fair.
So in a nutshell, just as in a civil trial, whereby a preponderance of evidence is given the most weight, even if most of the Lawbreaker-in-Chief’s crimes could be “explained away”, the fact of the matter is that there is enough clear and convincing evidence related to his illegal release of top killers, the rest of his crimes can fall by the wayside. Of course, McCarthy understands that a “stand alone” is much harder to prosecute than an inclusive charge sheet. Hence, his preference for its addition to an “overarching indictment.” Whatever leads him (and surrogates) into handcuffs, landing him/them in jail, works on this end.
It makes no difference how it happens, as long as it does!
IRREFUTABLE bloody evidence keeps piling up on a continuous basis, revealing the inherent nature of the Islamic beast via the slaughtering of Christians, Jews and all those deemed “infidels”. Horrific! Beyond the pale.
Thus, whichever way you slice it – no pun intended – their blood lust is demonstrated for what it is; insatiable and with no end in sight. So, two intersecting points of convergence, even if seemingly divergent, must be urgently addressed. Say what?
The first fatal point(s) of convergence can be found below. Let’s place the main facts in plain view.
Editor’s Note: EXTREME CAUTION ADVISED: The videos linked and embedded in this story are extremely graphic, showing brutal executions, and the bodies of those killed in those executions.
After exposing videos of “ritual human sacrifices” of Christians by Muslims, a former Palestinian Liberation Organization member-turned-Christian has discovered a new set of shocking videos that show human slaughterhouses in which non-Muslims are executed.
Also shown is the testimony of a witness who was threatened with being “sacrificed.”
“I have never seen something like this,” Shoebat told WND. “I have been investigating this story for the past two weeks. The story is probably the most horrific I have ever [done]. It proves with footage actual systematic [sl]aughterhouses of human beings, including Christians in Syria.”
The witness video, translated by Shoebat’s organization, Rescue Christians, includes the testimony of Saif Al-Adlubi, who inexplicably was identified for “sacrifice” but then not killed before government soldiers arrived.
“This is the reality of Islam, it is a pagan and utterly depraved and sadistic religion. It takes the soul of a man and purges any remnants of human affection from his very being. Look to your own soul, and understand your own obligation to help the Christians,” Shoebat said.
Al-Adlubi reported witnessing Armenians who were waiting their turn to be slaughtered.
An “Egyptian butcher … grabbed the neck of one elderly Armenian Christian,” Al-Adlubi said.
He said the executioner then said, “You’re an aged man and your neck is soft and I don’t have to sharpen my knife for you.”
The report blames the “gruesome systematic human extermination centers” of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIS, a radical Islamic organization in Syria and the Middle East.
Al-Adlubi is described in the report as a Muslim fundamentalist who joined the Free Syrian Army and was a militant and a media agent for FSA. He was captured but later “made it out when the Syrian militia” defeated the rebels in that location.
Al-Adlubi said he was called a heathen, “kafir,” and he responded, “How could I be considered kafir if I pray and fast?”
“You are ‘murtad’ (apostate),” he was told.
“I asked him, what is my destiny. I want to get a closure. What is it, a year two years in prison?” Al-Adlubi said.
He said he was told, “Rejoice, you will be sacrificed.”
Al-Adlubi reported seeing “bodies of young men who were systematically slaughtered and disemboweled.”
“The slaughterhouse was on a hill. It is secluded and is void of any homes nearby,” he said. “I witnessed lifeless bodies hanging upside down as if they were slaughtered sheep. In the center of the slaughterhouse is a huge Egyptian about two meters high. He was the one doing the slaughtering.”
Shoebat said several Arabic language news sources, Alwatan,AlJazeera and Mufaker, corroborated some of the details.
Reported Shoebat: “The prison centers where the ISIS (Da’ish) controls have become miniatures of what was during the Nazi SS extermination camps, except the ISIS carries out the extermination in a much more horrific way. Da’ish transforms the prisons into kangaroo courts with systematic slaughterhouses and killing centers to exterminate Christians and Muslims who disagree with the Takfiri ideology. Once they are found guilty, the way they deal with the victims was as if they were cattle.”
He said a Syrian Christian named Kamil Toume also confirmed the reports, with video, purportedly of the Siba district slaughterhouse in Homs, Syria.
In an interview, Toume brought additional information, Shoebat reported.
“You never heard of Umm Muhammad slaughterhouse?” Toume asked.
Additional footage shows two slaughterhouses, one in Bayyada and the other, from several years ago, in Al-Siba.
Al-Adlubi said the victims included Armenian and Syrian Christians along with Shiite and Sunni Muslims.
Said Walid Shoebat: “The stories told by Al-Adlubi and Toume add up. Toume sent us some footage that circulated the Syrian community after the human slaughterhouse finally ended, and the ugly remaining evidence was revealed when Umm Muhammad’s slaughterhouse in the Siba’ district in Homs was busted by Syrian police three years ago in August 2011.”
Shoebat said Al-Adlubi’s story “also checks out from footage obtained from Al-Bayyada, another slaughterhouse, which Rescue Christians was able to obtain footage from.”
“And just as Al-Adlubi stated, they were hanging upside down, headless, like slaughtered sheep. The heads were removed from the root of the chest cavity just as Al-Adlubi stated when describing how the Egyptian was doing his meticulous methods and how Toume described the Umm-Muhammad slaughterhouse in Al-Siba’ district.”
Video from the Al-Bayyada slaughterhouse:
“We report this story because of the silence on the systematic killing of Christians, Shiite minorities and even Sunni Muslims in Syria who disagree with the Takfirist theology. The story is reminiscent to the initial reporting on the extermination of European Jewry and other minorities when little coverage was given to the truth in these days,” Shoebat said.
WND reported last week Shoebat had uncovered videos showing Muslims conducting “ritual human sacrifices” by slitting the throats of their victims or putting a bullet in their heads.
Shoebat noted the speaker in one video uses the term Qurban just before gunfire erupts and men lined up in a row fall to the floor one by one. Shoebat explained that the Arabic term “can only signify a sacrifice, which indicates that the filmed slaughter is nothing but a ritual human sacrifice.”
Another video shows the throat of the “sacrifice” being slit with a knife.
“Christians are being killed in these very rituals every day, and the bloodshed will not stop. We must work together to rescue them,” Shoebat said.
Shoebat describes himself as a former “radicalized Muslim willing to die for the cause of jihad.”
According to his biography, he arrived in the United States in 1978 to study in Chicago where he was recruited at a “terror conference” by Jamal Said, the founder of the Islamic Association of Palestine, a front group for Hamas that later launched the Washington, D.C.-based Council on American-Islamic Relations.
WND recently reported that Sister Hatune Dogan claimed members of the jihadist factions in Syria trying to oust President Bashar al-Assad are draining the blood of Christians they behead and selling vials to Islamic radicals for $100,000 apiece.
The Christians, she said, are beheaded in ceremonies in which they are forced to kneel, with their hands and feet bound as the Muslim radicals read a death sentence imposed because the victim refuses to renounce Christianity and embrace Islam.
WND also has reported that the ISIS, considered to be the most ruthless of the Sunni Islamic militant groups fighting in Syria, has ordered a Christian community in Raqqa, Syria, to pay nearly 38 pounds of gold as a “guarantee of their safety.” The alternative offered was death.
As the above is absorbed (without vomiting), the second point(s) of convergence should come into focus.
Convergence Two/Fact One:
IN so far that Islamic blood continues unabated, how can it be that the leadership of the (heretofore) free world stands silent? Where is Obama Inc.’s outrage and calls for a global summit, as the west stands on the precipice? Is this not as enraging as say, a teenager who may, or may not, resemble his son, if he had one? Recall, the all out press conferences re Tray!