MORE often than not bombshells are dropped into this site’s sphere of influence. And, it is not as if this blogger isn’t used to highly charged terrain. As a matter of fact, associates/interested parties/circumstances draw this blog into divergent ‘areas of concern’. Be that as it may, when the bomblets/indictments revolve around Jewish (communal) interests, well, suffice it to say that the heart weighs a little heavier. Sigh. It is what it is.
Consider the following, respectively, as exhibits Number One and Number Two, in relation to aforementioned bombshells. Yet, they are ‘just’ opening salvos, regarding communal concerns: A ‘Mark of Cain: Pedophilia/Sex Abuse Rocks Yeshiva University’ couldn’t be more shocking – a MEGA stink bomb. As to another ‘mark of shame’, how can one close ones eyes, in relation to the wreckage wrought by alcoholism and substance abuse within the Jewish community? One can’t.
Alas, since there is no rest for the weary or wicked, along comes another heart breaker, but let’s first explore a backgrounder on the latest ‘area of concern’.
Through multiple sources it has been brought to this site’s attention that The Jewish Press is providing a forum for Islamic supremacists. It hardly matters whether it is unintentional, for the damage accrued is still the same. The (soon to be) referenced jihadists feign ‘brotherly’ love, and said gooey sentiments are enough for far too many deluded brethren, even those religiously imbued. Unfathomable. Despicable. Are they sitting on their G-d given brains?
The charges herein mainly revolve around The Jewish Press’s Internet ‘sister’ publication, even though its Print editor insists that one operates independently from the other:
“The Jewish Press is the largest independent weekly Jewish newspaper in the United States……and quickly won a following for its eclectic mix of Jewish news, political and religious commentary… For over five decades now The Jewish Press has championed Torah values and ideals from a centrist or Modern Orthodox perspective. The paper has been a tireless advocate on behalf of the State of Israel, Soviet Jewry….and has taken the lead in urging a greater communal openness in addressing domestic violence and other social ills. Known for its editorial feistiness, The Jewish Press was politically incorrect long before the phrase was coined…..In 2011 the JewishPress.com website and related Internet properties were relaunched as an independent, daily online newspaper, with breaking news and in depth articles on Israel, the Jewish People and the world. The Internet edition is managed by Stephen Leavitt, and the senior Internet editor is Yori Yanover. PRINT CONTACT info found herein….” Moreover, the following was printed atop the Friday, October 7, 2011 PRINT edition: ” Starting this Wednesday, October 5, join us as we welcome a new edition to The Jewish Press family – The e-Edition. No matter where you are in the world, simply log onto http://www.jewishpress.com, click the e-Edition and enjoy the same informative and dynamic newspaper we have been offering our readers for over half a century…”
NOT connected? Oh, really? Both operate under the same Jewish Press umbrella, and the PRINT edition is specifically noted as a ‘point of contact’. Additionally, the website ADVERTISES for its PRINT subscription – Jewish Press Print Subscription – thus, it truly becomes six of one, half a dozen of another with less than six degrees of separation. Tragically, other Jewish/Israeli media outlets are equally embracing in their acceptance of Oktar’s ‘friendship’. All in due time.
Now, while it is surely the case that editorial discretion is up to those who sit at said perch, it is also obligatory upon The Jewish Press, a paper of (Jewish) record and import, to uphold its main mandate; the protection of the Jewish community within Israel and the diaspora. And, it’s a sacred mission. So, just as they must be supported if they ‘out’ Jewish malfeasance – rest assured, this blogger stands squarely behind such heavy lifting, as evidenced in the opening shot – it goes without saying, or it should, that lending a platform to Islamic supremacists (or their apologists) is always a NO GO ZONE…FULL STOP…regardless of ‘this or that’ gobblygook intention.
But before we dig into the heart of the matter it is imperative to understand the following: A forum is being given to a group headed by an individual under the axis of the Muslim Brotherhood Mafia, hardly a topic unfamiliar within these pages. Peer within Turkish Creationist Promoted By Muslim Brotherhood Blames “Atheist Zionists” For Middle East Troubles, and its impact will become deadly clear.
Without further ado, below is just a tiny sampling of the evidence amassed against The Jewish Press’s wayward (editorial) staff:
Commence your torturous journey with the following video clip, Turkish Thinker Adnan Oktar Tells about His Struggle against the Freemasons
Al-Jazeera TV (Qatar) – September 28, 2007 – http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1643.htm, but pay particular attention to the discussion at 1:40 minutes, as the ‘stealth’ jihadist demonstrably shows his Islamic supremacist ambitions, and exhorts the absolute imperative to eliminate Zionism. How dare he! Then, juxtapose this brief, but VERY revealing clip to the picture painted of the very same Adnan Oktar, as he is feted at The Jewish Press!
To wit, this sandal-licking interview appeared on April 12, 2012 – Prominent Turkish Muslim Leader Sends Passover Blessings to the Jewish Nation By: Yori Yanover, and some of the bile is evinced in these words, courtesy of the ‘prominent Turkish Muslim leader’.
Yanover: Your love for all monotheistic people is clear and admirable. But while Jews are devoid of a directive to convert others to our faith, the very foundation of most Christian denominations is the command to bring others into theirs. Is it possible for God-loving men to live in peace with a large Christian element fomenting such aggressive intentions? Would it not spell constant tension and unrest within the community of God?
Adnan Oktar: It is natural for members of all faiths to think their beliefs are true and to defend them. Jews, Muslims and Christians have a perfect right to defend and tell others of their beliefs. However, it is of course unacceptable to try to force anyone to be a Christian or compel anyone to be a Muslim. Such a thing has no place in Islam. In verse 256 of Surat al-Baqara, Allah reveals, “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” I do not believe my Christian brothers will put any such pressure or duress on others either. Jews, Christians and Muslims can all live together as servants who believe in the one Allah, who love Him and call upon Him. The important thing is to be very honest. No problems will arise so long as people are honest, because honest people never do anything incompatible with good conscience. They never do anything that will be displeasing to Allah. Lovelessness, harshness, oppression and compulsion are all displeasing to Allah. Those who love Allah stay well away from them…..”
In plain English – not the bastardized kind – Oktar is exhorting, to one and all, and dare I repeat his main message: “Jews, Christians and Muslims can all live together as servants who believe in the one Allah, who love Him and call upon Him.” So, if Jews and Christians believe in the ‘one Allah’ !, then all relations will be swell. And, the interview continues along the same dhimmitude refrain, yet The Jewish Press’s interviewer prattles on, oblivious – or not – to the explosions/exhortations lobbed within said interview!
FAR be it for this blog to step into matters which are not within its purview or knowledge base, but aside from this site’s vast compendium of research/investigations into Islamic imperatives – amply evidenced within a groundbreaking policy paper ‘Islam & Blood’ – this writer has been on both ends of the interview process.
As an interviewer, ‘Presenting Part Three: A Strategic-Based policy Interview With Dr. Martin Sherman’ tells the tale. On the opposite side of the spectrum lies ‘The Inquisitr Interviews Adina Kutnicki: The Reality Of Life For An Israeli Patriot’. Therefore, it is impossible to blow smoke in this direction. Don’t even go there.
Regardless, for those who require further visual and audio aides to ‘see from there to here’, listen to the words of several high profile Rabbis – some have even written articles for The Jewish Press – and you be the judge, as to whether or not something is rotten within – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hQG4lgkayw. Yes, pay attention to the 2:39 marker, whereby Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander (figuratively) bows down to Allah, via his agreeing with Adnan Oktar….talk about obsequious and craven.
NOT to be lost in the shuffle of those bowing down to Allah, another dhimmi rears his head, as Rabbi Avraham Sherman prays for Adnan Oktar’s mission to be successful! Imagine that. Thus, as Oktar clearly insists that it is incumbent upon ALL to accept the ‘one Allah’, Rabbis continue to play deaf, dumb and blind. Concomitantly, inexplicably, The Jewish Press adds a tailwind. Beyond contemptible.
IF your heart can withstand it (never mind your mental equilibrium), a full scale investigation has been undertaken, explicitly to expose the underbelly of Adnan Oktar’s mission, and then some. Glean within:
ADNAN OKTAR AND THE ISLAMIST SEX CULT
“Adnan Oktar and the Islamist Sex Cult” by Sam Westrop is one of the best, most comprehensive current expository sources that I’ve come across on Adnan Oktar. His downloadable 2013 report* at the Website below is replete with accessible footnote links, including the MEMRI video in which Oktar admits his eventual goal is of Islamic world domination:
http://tiny.cc/2355vw (tiny URL) or http://standforpeace.org.uk/adnan-oktar-and-the-islamist-sex-cult/
“Israeli politicians and Jewish media across the World,” writes Westrop, “have excitedly embraced the efforts of Turkish television channel A9 to effect and encourage interfaith dialogue – or, as the channel itself puts it, promote “peace and love” between all peoples.”
“The programme is part of a hardline group run by Turkish Islamist Adnan Oktar (aka Harun Yahya), and extremist with a history of promoting Holocaust Denial and who fuses Ataturk nationalism with Turkish Islamism in his attacks upon Jews, Darwinists and Atheists. His group of followers is best described as a cult; one accused by a number of critics of using sexual abuse and blackmail to achieve political leverage.”
A9 is falsely perceived by a number of media outlets as an example of a moderate Islamic voice that is working to bring Jews and Muslims closer together. While this is indeed the declared purpose of A9, it is a façade that shrouds a hostile agenda. Just as democracy was a useful means for Turkish Islamists to propagate their anti-democratic views, so too is A9’s declared devotion to interfaith dialogue a sanitizing veneer that distracts from its more sinister ideas.
*Also see downloadable report at http://standforpeace.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Adnan-Oktar-and-the-Islamist-Sex-Cult.pdf
Jewish media journalists and Israeli Rabbis have been invited to Adnan’s headquarters free of charge and subsequently agreed to support him. Let it be known that Adnan Oktar has a long history of inviting many influential people to his headquarters which has a camera in every room, filmed sex orgies, and used these same films for black mail so as to demand support for his causes. Adnan Oktar who was diagnosed as being mentally ill, claims to be the next Muslim Mosiach. It is interesting that after various Rabbis have been invited to Turkey, support Oktar’s claims in one way or another in video links below.
Who is Adnan Oktar (pen name: Harun Yahya)? He is claimed on his web page to be a ‘world renown and respected scholar’ who has devoted himself to writing about scientific and faith-related subjects such as the theory of evolution and miracles of God.
He is further described by supporters as a respected ‘scientist’ who has publications in incredibly diverse areas of interest (actually he is not a university graduate). He speaks only Turkish. The fact is that, his publications and his foundation (Science Research Foundation) have recently been banned in Turkey, and most members of his “sect” have been sent to court. This was not due to their Islamic and scientific activities, but due to crimes such as blackmail, extortion, possession of unlicensed weapons and sexual intercourse with minors. About three years ago, upon complaints of victims and many years of suspicion, Turkish police raided residences of this group. The discoveries at the houses and testimony of the group members were shocking. Under the mask of promoting Islam and scientific facts, the group members had been found to engage in extensive criminal activity. These crimes included blackmail, possession of unlicensed weapons and sexual intercourse with individuals under age 18. The head of the group, Adnan Oktar (recorded by police cameras, leaked and shown on Turkish TV channels such as Kanal D, ATV, Star) confessed to blackmailing people who they regarded as an obstacle to their enterprises. These people included the reporters for the newspaper Hurriyet, Emin Colasan, and Fatih Altayli, after they questioned some of Harun Yahya’s activities such as bribing the municipality of Ankara.
More information at this link: http://whoisharunyahya.wordpress.com/
Yori Yanover, an editor of the Jewish Press, continues to print Sinem Tezyapar’s articles and attempts to justify it . . .
In this April 21, 2013 article, “A Muslim Perspective: Boston’s Tragedy Must Not Generate More Hate,” that was published one day after the Boston Marathon Bombing, Sinem describes jihad as peaceful and loving and essentially accuses the victims of being hatemongers, propagandists, criminal, and of “inciting lynch mob.”
Turkey’s anti-evolutionist showgirls
An Islamist fringes wraps its hard anti-Darwin message in skin-tight Versace, drag-queen make-up and po-mo posing
Sinem Tezyapar is a fake, an outright fraud. She’s not a modernist Muslim, nor an advocate for free speech, she’s nothing more than a willing stooge for fundamentalists in false clothing.
THE SMOKING GUN THAT WE OVERLOOKED! TUNDRA TABLETS CONTINUES TO EXPOSE OKTAR AND HIS HAREM AS FRAUDS WITH REVEALING INTERVIEW BY ARETZ SHEVA AND ONE OF OKTAR’S BLONDE DARLINGS . . .
The following links are from the JPress by Sinem Tezyapar. Most of the talkbacks have been censored.
After a free trip to Turkey, Adnan Oktar’s headquarters, various Rabbis freely support Adnan Oktar stating that the time for Mosiach is close and that the 3rd and final Jewish Temple should start from Turkey.
Rabbi Hollander, Abrahamson and Rahimi with Adnan Oktar- http://harunyahya.com/en/Makaleler/15163/Adnan-Oktars-meeting-with-Sanhedrin-Rabbis
Rabbi Lau with Adnan Oktar – http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/editorial/in-an-ocean-of-islamic-hatred-we-discovered-true-friends/2013/04/22/
Here is another Rabbi along with Rabbi Hollander that claims Islam is the oldest religion to mankind in a video which also supports Jews for allah.
What is being promoted by Oktar and his girls are in one of the stages an Islamic take over.
The Secret of Muhammad’s Success (and how Oktar girls are able to continue lying).
One needn’t think that The Jewish Press is the sole Jewish- related media organ captivated/smitten by Oktar’s taquiyya-driven, stealth jihad. NOT by a long shot. But their platform is huge. Additionally, through one of ‘Oktar’s stable of girls‘, get a load of where else his Islamic message was given a boost – the Jerusalem Post!
Turkey and Israel
Adding fuel to the fire is the ACTUAL admission from Oktar’s followers, but do internalize their MAIN message: Israel must submit to their strictures, as laid out under the Turkish Islamic Union, otherwise there will be no ‘protective’ umbrella! You got that? Israel’s ‘shield’ will take effect, but only once the Jewish nation submits to the dictates of the (reconstituted) Ottoman Empire!
“Ceylan Ozbudak works with the controversial Islamic leader Adnan Oktar, also known as Harun Yahya. One of Oktar’s announcements has been his desire to build a temple for all religions on Jerusalem’s Temple Mount.
Ozbudak suggested that Turkey can mediate between Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Egypt, and other surrounding countries for peace. She added that Turkey could protect the Jewish people’s right to live in Israel as well as manage the region. But will this grandiose plan work and does Israel want to give up much of its sovereignty to be protected by the former Ottoman Empire?
Ozbudak hosts a television show called, ‘Building Bridges’, with a variety of other young Turkish women. They have stated on the program that in order to ensure peace, “we believe that this can only be done through a Turkish Islamic Union, where all the countries will be independent in their states, but they will be under one roof and Turkey will be the spiritual leader of this Turkish Islamic Union”.
The show airs on A9TV, which states on its website that it “has been set up to build up love, justice and solidarity among people and our main aim is being pioneer for peace all over the world by using the unifying policy of Turkish Islamic Union. In every show youwatch you will feel this policy clearly.”
More specifically, piggybacked by the above incendiary charges, albeit using Oktar’s ‘alias’, aka Harun Yahya – ‘Sex, flies and videotape: the secret lives of Harun Yahya’, by Halil Arda…is further excerpted within:
“On to this stage walked Oktar, clutching the first of his books, Judaism and Freemasons, a derivative retread of anti-Semitic clichés in the manner of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which identified Jews and the masons as the devious obstacles to the emergence of a new, powerful Turkish-Muslim nation. “The principal mission of Jews and Freemasons in Turkey,” Oktar wrote, “was to erode the spiritual, religious, and moral values of the Turkish people and make them like animals……
Throughout the 1980’s and early ’90’s, Oktar built up his community. Followers were especially active in the swanky summer resorts along the shore of the Sea of Marmara. A friend of mine, who spent most of her holidays in the late 1980’s at her parents’ summer flat in the area, recalls how the followers’ targeting worked: “They bought flats there and singled out attractive girls and boys. The boys were very good-looking, boys who can easily charm you. I guess this is why they started with the boys. Once the girls entered the cult, they had to give up sexy fashion, so they wouldn’t be able to attract new members. But for the boys, the rules were more relaxed, so that they could continue recruitment……
The social organisation within the group was becoming rigidly hierarchical and, as is common in messianic cults, sexual relations were tightly controlled, with the putative messiah given access denied to others. Oktar considered all female members his legitimate possession. Berk, a recent defector after seven years, describes the groups: “There were sisters (bacilar), concubines (cariyeler) and brothers (kardesler), the male members. The brothers were allowed to marry the concubines, while the sisters were all married to Adnan Hodja.” Of course these marriages were not legal, but they were treated as such within the group. As with Scientology, discipline was maintained through humiliation, the threat of expulsion and physical violence. “I know personally,” Berk told me, “that Oktar beats the sisters…..
Video cameras were installed in the communal apartments, which allowed Oktar to exercise control over his followers and outsiders. As the criminal indictment vividly illustrates, young girls were lured into sex parties with the promise of being admitted to the group, but ended up having to perform sexual acts with men of influence, whom the group needed for its economic and political success. The encounters were filmed and used to coerce the men in question to act in the group’s interest……
Sensing another opportunity immediately after 9/11, Oktar instantly shed his formerly virulent anti-Semitism and published a piece called “Islam condemns terror”, designed, apparently, to curry favour with America. Oktar’s group already had established good relations with US congressmen in 2000, when his Science Research Foundation received the endorsement of seven members of Congress and retired Senator Steve Symms, who described it as “a major influence for good among the younger population of Turkey” and praised its “commitment to democracy, preservation of national and moral values, and respect for law”…..
Since then Oktar has become an ardent proponent of interfaith dialogue, attempting to unify believers of all stripes against the corrupting influence of Darwinism, which he now holds responsible for Fascism, anti-Semitism and the Holocaust. Most recently, he has been talking about the “Turkish-Islamic Union”, which would bring peace to the entire Muslim world under the leadership of Turkey……
Thanks to the “War on Terror”, Oktar could paint himself as a credible alternative to radical Islam; thanks to our timidity and incompetence around issues of faith he can gain credibility as a representative of Muslim sentiment and a champion of “inter-faith dialogue.”
And, what doesn’t this site know about “inter-faith” dialogue and its pernicious effects? Not much.
Though Halil Arda’s indictment continues on – and should be read in full at the above link – a nagging question begs/screams to be asked, albeit doubtful it will be answered: Is it possible that the above same ‘filming’ techniques have been used on some of Judaism’s ‘smitten’ brethren? In other words, is blackmail involved? Don’t get mad at ‘inquiring minds’, thus, pointing (deflecting) fingers in this site’s direction. No Allah-wash.
NONETHELESS, Allah is surely proud of Oktar’s deception and depredations. Holy smokes. In this regard, what say you, The Jewish Press? Why haven’t you conducted your due diligence, before allowing this creature (and others of similar persuasion, but let’s not muddy the waters) to sully your pages, thereby, slapping your devoted readers in the process?
FULL DISCLOSURE: This American-Israeli has been privileged to contribute to The Jewish Press, over the past several years. The op-eds can be accessed herein, but the sidebar links to other contributions from this writer. For many decades, this Jewish ‘institution’ became a ‘bible’ of sorts for Orthodox Jewry, as well as many Christian supporters who love Israel. This is a (communal) fact.
So, as a professional courtesy, this blog calls upon The Jewish Press’s senior editors – in Print and Internet…you know who you are – to fully address said concerns. A ‘tikkun’ , a reckoning, of sorts. But this site is not referring to ‘tikkun olam’ (‘repairing the world’), a revolting mantra often used by leftist Jews, which leaves little room for ‘taking care of pressing Jewish business’.
Many Jews, and non-Jews alike, await a swift and detailed response. Besides, this blog address is as good as any – perhaps better than most – to start the dialogue. An accumulation of several hundred thousand viewers – in just over a year – lends this site viable credibility and heightened visibility.
As a matter of record, having just won an award from Watcher of Weasels – The Council Has Spoken!! (just scroll down to ‘Non-Council Winners’), it behooves the editors at The Jewish Press – again, Print and Internet – to seriously address this grave situation. You get the drift. Besides, it is not for nothing that the award winning commentary exposed Obama Inc’s covering for Islamist jihadists!
And, another thing, no ‘weasling’ out…squirming…dodging…or weaving will be countenanced. Straight shooting a necessary requirement. A communal obligation.
The Jewish Press – other media outlets as well – we are watching…waiting…
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‘The Jewish Press’ (Other Jewish/Israeli Media Outlets Too) Has MEGA Explaining To Do: Are They – Unwittingly, Or Not – Providing Cover For Islamic Supremacists? What’s Going On? And, Will They Reverse Course Before It Is Too Late? Commentary By Adina Kutnicki
Blackmail is not nice, maybe that’s why Bibi is acting strange and has become the Potus puppet.NASA hears all sees all Bob NZ
If the Jewish Press allows its name to go on it they own it. Period.
It is despicable that the Jewish Press would be in cahoots with Adnan Oktar and his silicone infested whores, anti semites all.
David, they sure do ‘own’ it, and there is more here than meets the eye…all in due time. And, they are far from the only ones, this is a fact too.
Oh my, the heartburn…
Following numerous exchanges with “Jewish” Press editor Maoz, and his counterpart at the FB page and internet edition Yanover, it quickly became evident that the shuck and jive is on. Maoz denies all involvement and responsibility for the internet edition. And Yanover runs it like a personal fiefdom with an emphasis on providing unfettered access to Christian missionaries like Bert Schlossberg (who uses his “Jewish sounding” last name to inculcate and insinuate himself into Jewish blogs and FB pages and slowly exposes himself for his true goals: converting Jews to Christianity and then Islam. The Ottoman Oktar cult of the happy hookers for jihad are provided as much free space on the “Jewish” Press as they want, with Yanover actively not only censoring criticism but following through by banning all critics of the cult and Christian missionaries from both the FB page and the “Jewish” Press web site.
But then, the path grows: Other so-called “Jewish FB pages and blogs, like “Israeli” Frontline, has also become a hotbed of cult promotion with those that question the cult’s motives immediately banished. Alleged Jews, such as Michelle Cohen and “Joe Greenwald” somehow manage to have themselves declared “admins” at a variety of alleged Jewish sites and – literally within minutes of being named admins – ban the same group of REAL pro-Israel posters whose crime (according to Cohen and Greenwald) is to have the audacity to even question the cult.
I’ve asked who “Michelle Cohen” really is: no one would answer. “Greenwald” tends to push into histrionics whenever he is asked why he so strongly supports the cult. When I asked him very directly why he is so supportive of the cult, his response was to condemn me for being “autocratic.” Not sure if that answers my query.
Fact is like any cult, there is a requirement for there to be a charismatic leader and a willing membership broken into two parts: One part the cult leadership those with an obvious personal gain and profit – like oktar’s hookers and Schlossberg who believes he is “doing allah’s work” and this becomes his venue. And then those with either extremely low self-esteem who seek only approval and a head stroking, or are being blackmailed so as to keep the secret silent. We can presume what the secret is given the exposure by global media in the past, including the more traditional Jew hating writers at the Guardia.
This exposure can only be the beginning. This must grow to going after the “Jewish” Press’ advertisers until such time as the quotes can be removed from the “Jewish” Press and it returns to the foundation built by Rabbis Klass and Kahane. As long as Maoz and Yanover can hit the censor and delete buttons, the “Jewish” Press will continue in its trend to becoming “Allah’s Pillar.”
All I can is this: Now that I am fully aware of the scope, it will be a cold day in hell before they can jive talk their way out of it.
Yes, they have the absolute ability to censor and hit ‘delete’. However, alternative blogs, plus FB and other social media outlets are the wonders of cyber space. My commentary has been up a little more than 12 hrs, and it has been downloaded hundreds of times. Not only that, but it will – in due time – be re-blogged countless times, and on major blog sites too. Have no idea how some of these sites come across my commentaries, but they fly faster than the speed of light across the web.
Sach ha’kol, at the end of it all, they will be forced to ‘look in the mirror’. J Press, as well as others, just need to be nudged along. And, this is the point of my efforts.
Is there a list of the sites (if not all, then most) in cahoots with Adnan Oktar and his silicone infested whores? If so can someone post it?
What I don’t get is why a publication like the Jewish Press would throw away its legacy and reputation over this.
David.Mabe they are being blackmailed by Adnan.Bob NZ
I am replyng to this post from Bob, for some reason I cannot reply directly:
“David.Mabe they are being blackmailed by Adnan.Bob NZ”
I have actually wondered about that myself.
I assume the co-conspirators are receiving money or, “services,” and perhaps blackmail plays a role also. There is nothing new under the sun. The Moonies pulled the same stunt by by bribing various leaders in the evangelical community with large honorarium and hired them as shills for their front groups. They buy the respectability they don’t have, and sadly, many within the Jewish pro-Israel community are willing to be bought. The Humanist did an excellent investigative piece, and I did an opinion piece. I would like to reblog this, but the button doesn’t seem to show up here. https://endtimechaverim.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/wolfettes-in-sheeps-clothing-outing-the-oktar-cult-their-barbie-dolls-and-its-shills/
Contrary to one statement made – Jews, Christian and mooslims do not believe in one G-d, Allah. While, from an overall assessment, it can be argued that Jews and Christians believe in the same G-d, the god of mooslims, OTOH, is the one who teaches to kill infidels and denigrate women. Ergo, this god is not the same God as those of Jews and Christians. mooslimism is a twisted and evil amalgamation of Judaism and Christianity devised by a pedophile who violated nine year old girls. Nothing more needs to be said. When I was married, I was 22. Needless to say, my wife was not six years old at the time. THAT alone is a major reason of why islamism is not comparable to Judaism and Christianity.
To anyone with a knowledge of history and an ability to discern, islamism is not a religion – it is a tyrannical political system based upon oppression and the slaughter of its opponents.
Adina – I might not post very often, but I read your posts daily. Keep it up! You are doing a great job of keeping all of us informed. Salute!
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Jews and Muslims and Israel
” The jews are the peoples who were living in Islamic countries and nations since when the other nations and peoples hated them, the Roman and Christian persecuted them, The jews were not allowed to enter into the city of Jerusalem in the Roman and later in the Christian Era, but it were muslims who allowed them in Jerusalem, The III rd Caliph Hz. Umar Bin Khattab (RA) and Sultan Salahoddin Ayyubi allowed them to worship in jerusalem, and the Jews were living a prosperous life in the islamic Empire, the turks treated them with nicely, and the Jews flourished in Islamic era, they learned science, medicine, engineering in Islamic Era only, but at last in the beginning of 20 th century Muslims and Jews became victims of the British conspiracy and Muslims started hating them for the small piece of land”.
The Land which According to Quran “was for the Jews”.
Perhaps This is One of the the biggest mistake of Muslims.
The peoples who had persecuted the jews since millenia became their friends, took hold of their scientific knowledge, developed atomic energy from
the scientific research of jewish scientists, and the peoples who had given the jews shelter for one thousand years in islamic countries became their enemies, this is biggest conspiracy against muslims and jews together.
The British and the Americans and their Christian allies identified the jewish scientists very early and sided with them covertly and sewed the seed of hatred in the hearts of these two children of Abraham.
The peoples who helped and sheltered helpless jews for complate one thousand years in Islamic Empire and the Jews who lived in the Islamic countries fell prey to the satanic conspiracy, now Arab muslims and Israeli Jews are fighting each other because they both have same DNA and brains, they could not realize the conspiracy behind this sewn hatred, the Jewish scientific knowledge has been Stolen and looted by the satanic European allies, and the allies realized the fact, that if muslims and jews who had been favoured and obliged by the muslims became friends then the new atomic knowledge will pass to the ottoman empire and then the ottomans will once again become invincible.
But muslims and Jews both did not realize the satanic conspiracy and for a piece of land both parties became enemies of each other, the jews had never seen any land since millenia, so they became obsessed even for a very small piece of land and the muslims other hand think at that time that the British are the real friends of Muslims and Islam.
The peoples who Sheltered in difficult times became enemy and those peoples who persecuted the Jews stollen the Fruits of science and technology from the hands of the jews.
The jews, other hand became happy with a torn apart and small piece of land, the example of the jews is just like an infant who becomes quiet when some body inserts a honey nipple (Pacifier) in his mouth.
And this mistake of Muslims is now became Nasoor of Ummate Rasool Allah (SM), this mistake is the root cause of every cause and problem of muslims, the British sowed a poisonous seed in the heart of Muslims, and now every blame of terrorism and every bad thing is the result of this poisonous seed or its germination.”
Now every act of terrorism and every bad thing is created by the enemies of Islam and blamed on muslims, because muslims and jews are enemies, so they can do it.
The present time is not for hatred and enemity, but the present time is to realize the conspiracy and the present time is for peace and justice.
We must forgive each other and we must remember the favors and we must live with wise thinking and in friendship and with confidence.
Now we must realize it, and we must understand it.
Shalom from Israel,
First, thanks for taking the time to post. Duly noted and appreciated.
Now, if I wasn’t in the midst of several interlocking investigations, I would have the time to answer your post, point by point. But, I will leave you with this thought: if not for Islam’s relationship with blood – and this is not a Jewish or Christian conspiracy, it just is what it is – then peaceful relations would not only be possible, but more than desirable – https://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/13/islam-blood-a-groundbreaking-policy-paper-contained-herein-the-world-stands-on-a-precipice-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki-109/
And, yes, I am fully cognizant of the historical enmity of various Christian groups and their persecution of Jews. How could I forget… Sach ha’kol, at the end of it all, those who support my thousands year old homeland, my patrimony, are my friends. Simple as that.
shalom , I really wanted from the bottom of my heart that we both religions be in peace
Ishrat, I am glad that you mean well. But it seems like you are believing a lot of superstition and inaccurate narrative. It might be helpful to read your Koran and understand the background for its hatred of those it considers infidels. Jewish citizens of many Muslim countries were forced to flee in 1948, and some were forced to flee at later dates.
The “golden age in Spain,” was really not so golden, as Muslims raided and slaughtered whole villages of Jews and Christians. But there were times of peace and cooperation. My understanding is that the Islamic scholar Al-Ghazzel (sp?) became a close friend of the Jewish sage Maimonides, and it was this influence that allowed pockets of peaceful co-existance, as Maimonides encouraged his Muslim friend toward a philosophical orientation of Islam, rather than a literal one.
The links Adina provided all have excellent background information, and other scholars and representatives. The only caveat I see is Walid Shoebat, who is a fraud, and saw 9/11 as an opportunity to make money off of naive evangelicals and some academic and government funded projects with his, “I used to be a terrorist,” narrative.
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